Interviewed for Season 2 Episode 6 of the conspiracy theory podcast, Wake Up Sheep People, with hosts Steve Farley and J Nixon.

Audio available here https://player.fm/series/wake-up-sheep-people/episode-16-into-the-future

Banner image description: logo for podcast with two comic drawn heads of the hosts J Nixon and Steve Farley on sheep bodies screaming in red text Wake Up Sheep People!